Immigration is Overwhelmingly Good for the United States

[Rosuav]

Gated communities would become a scarcity and, well, can't have that.

Oh, I'm sorry. Good point. This would cause irreparable damage to the gate manufacturing industry.

[Aristotle]

Sier, do you know when you lost the right to be treated with respect on this topic?

When you explicitly said you don't care about the facts.

That was the moment I knew there was no point having a rational discussion with you, because you admitted that you didn't care about truth. Frankly, it is probably when I should have banned you from the forums because that level of intellectual disrespect is not welcome here.

That's why it is so easy to just call you a racist.

1) Because it is what you are.

2) Because I have absolutely no interest in convincing you of anything. People who are wallowing gleefully in their ignorance and openly admitting they don't care about the truth are not the kind of people who CAN be convinced of anything. You are literally the equivalent of a flat-earther or an anti-vaxxer.

Such people deserve scorn, and perhaps pity, but certainly not respect.

Of course that's what you see. You're liberal, and I'm a southern Republican.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

You've said a lot of dumb things, but that one is really funny since I was a legislative researcher and speech writer for US Senator Strom Thurmond (R-SC) and I was invited onto Air Force Two by George Bush for my volunteering work for the Republican Governors Convention when it was held in South Carolina.

[Aristotle]

3. I really don't care about the stats

I should have closed the thread right then and there.

We've had some great discussions on these forums but the basis of them all was always intellectual honesty and respect for reality. Whether its a flat-earther, an anti-vaxxer, or someone announcing they don't care about the facts/stats, there has to be some basis of respect for reality. Otherwise no meaningful discussion can take place.

It's all good. We've both expressed ourselves to exhaustion.

Agreed.

Thread closed.

[Aristotle]

Some of the U.S.’s biggest companies are founded by immigrants

216 companies on the Fortune 500 were founded by immigrants or their children

Immigrant Founders of the Fortune 500

Immigrant-founded Fortune 500 firms are headquartered in 33 of the 50 states, employ 12.8 million people worldwide, and accounted for $5.3 trillion in global revenue in 2016.

Apple - Syrian immigrant son, Steve Jobs. 132,000+ jobs.

Amazon - Cuban refugee son, Jeff Bezos. 647,000+ jobs.

AT&T - Scottish immigrant Alexander Graham Bell. 250,000+ jobs.

Big Lots! - Russian immigrant Sol Shenk. 11,000+ jobs.

Capital One - British immigrant Nigel Morris. 50,000 jobs.

Colgate - British immigrant William Colgate. 37,700+ jobs.

Disney - Canadian immigrant Walt and Roy Disney.

eBay - French immigrant Pierre Omidyar. 14,000+ jobs. people

Ford - Irish immigrant son Henry Ford. 200,000+ jobs.

GE - Canadian immigrant Thomas Edison. 283,000+ jobs.

IBM - German immigrant Herman Hollerith. 350,000+ jobs.

Kohl's - Polish immigrant Maxwell Kohl. 136,000 jobs.

Google - Russian immigrant Sergey Brin. 85,000+ jobs.

McDonalds - Irish immigrants Richard and Maurice McDonald and Czech immigrant Ray Kroc. 210,000+ jobs.

Netflix - Austrian immigrant son, Marc Randolph.

Panda Express - Chinese immigrants Andrew and Peggy Cherng. 24,000+ jobs.

Pfizer - German immigrants Charles Pfizer and Charles Erhart. 96,500+ jobs.

Radio Shack - England immigrants Theodore and Milton Deutschmann. At one time 7,300 stores and 95% of Americans lived within 3 miles of a Radio Shack.

Tesla - South African immigrant Elon Musk. 18,000+ jobs.

Yahoo - Taiwanese immigrant Jerry Yang. 8,600+ jobs.

45% of all High-Tech Fortune 500 firms were founded by immigrants.

Simplified list of what I consider the most noteworthy of the 216 Fortune 500 founded by immigrants or their children:

Apple (Syria)
AT&T (Scotland)
Ford Motor (Ireland)
Amazon.com (Cuba)
General Electric (England, Canada)
Verizon Communications (Scotland)
Costco Wholesale (Canada)
Walgreens Boots Alliance (Sweden)
Kroger (Germany)
JPMorgan Chase & Co. (Czech Republic)
Home Depot (Russia)
Boeing (Germany, Austria)
Bank of America Corp. (Italy)
Alphabet [Google] (Russia)
Citigroup (Poland)
Comcast (Germany)
International Business Machines [IBM] (Germany)
Phillips 66 (England, Scotland)
Procter & Gamble (England, Ireland)
PepsiCo (England, Germany)
United Parcel Service (Ireland)
Marathon Petroleum (Germany)
Walt Disney (Canada)
Pfizer (Germany)
Lockheed Martin (England)
Sysco (Russia)
Dow Chemical (Canada)
Merck (Germany)
Cigna (Ireland)
Honeywell International (Switzerland)
Goldman Sachs Group (Germany)
Oracle (Russia, Iran)
United Continental Holdings (Germany, Austria)
General Dynamics (Ireland)
3M (Canada)
Capital One Financial (England)
Twenty-First Century Fox (Hungary, Russia)
Philip Morris International (Germany)
Deere (England)
Kraft Heinz (Germany)
McDonald's (Ireland, Czech Republic)
DuPont (France)
Northrop Grumman (Germany)
Raytheon (Canada)
Qualcomm (Italy)
U.S. Bancorp (Scotland)
Dollar Tree (Canada)
Staples (Austria)
Southern (England)
Kohl's (Poland)
Lear (Germany)
PG&E Corp. (Canada)
CarMax (Austria and Russia)
Colgate-Palmolive (England)
Nordstrom (Sweden)
Aramark (Poland)
CBS (Ukraine)
Waste Management (Holland)
Office Depot (Russia)
Monsanto (Ireland)
Texas Instruments (England, Sweden, Norway)
Loews (Austria, Germany)
Viacom (Ukraine)
Bed Bath & Beyond (Russia)
Hilton Worldwide Holdings (Norway)
Estée Lauder (Hungary and Czechoslovakia, Hungary)
PayPal Holdings (Russia, Poland, Germany)
Priceline Group (Germany)
United States Steel (Scotland)
Hormel Foods (Germany)
Hertz Global Holdings (Germany)
MGM Resorts International (Armenia)
Fidelity National Information Services (England)
eBay (France)
Mohawk Industries (England (4x), Ireland)
Netflix (Austria)
Avis Budget Group (Russia)
Ralph Lauren (Belarus)
Tesla (South Africa)
Nvidia (Taiwan)
Dr Pepper Snapple Group (England, Romania)
Yum Brands [Pepsi, Taco Bell, PizzaHut, KFC] (England, Germany)
Oshkosh (Norway)
Harley-Davidson (England, Scotland)
Avon Products (Ireland)
Clorox (Ireland)
Owens Corning (Ireland)
S&P Global (Ireland)
Big Lots (Russia)
Toll Brothers (Ukraine)
Yahoo (Taiwan)

[Aristotle]

Some of the U.S.’s biggest companies are founded by immigrants

216 companies on the Fortune 500 were founded by immigrants or their children

Immigrant Founders of the Fortune 500

Immigrant-founded Fortune 500 firms are headquartered in 33 of the 50 states, employ 12.8 million people worldwide, and accounted for $5.3 trillion in global revenue in 2016.

Apple - Syrian immigrant son, Steve Jobs. 132,000+ jobs.

Amazon - Cuban refugee son, Jeff Bezos. 647,000+ jobs.

AT&T - Scottish immigrant Alexander Graham Bell. 250,000+ jobs.

Big Lots! - Russian immigrant Sol Shenk. 11,000+ jobs.

Capital One - British immigrant Nigel Morris. 50,000 jobs.

Colgate - British immigrant William Colgate. 37,700+ jobs.

Disney - Canadian immigrant Walt and Roy Disney.

eBay - French immigrant Pierre Omidyar. 14,000+ jobs. people

Ford - Irish immigrant son Henry Ford. 200,000+ jobs.

GE - Canadian immigrant Thomas Edison. 283,000+ jobs.

IBM - German immigrant Herman Hollerith. 350,000+ jobs.

Kohl's - Polish immigrant Maxwell Kohl. 136,000 jobs.

Google - Russian immigrant Sergey Brin. 85,000+ jobs.

McDonalds - Irish immigrants Richard and Maurice McDonald and Czech immigrant Ray Kroc. 210,000+ jobs.

Netflix - Austrian immigrant son, Marc Randolph.

Panda Express - Chinese immigrants Andrew and Peggy Cherng. 24,000+ jobs.

Pfizer - German immigrants Charles Pfizer and Charles Erhart. 96,500+ jobs.

Radio Shack - England immigrants Theodore and Milton Deutschmann. At one time 7,300 stores and 95% of Americans lived within 3 miles of a Radio Shack.

Tesla - South African immigrant Elon Musk. 18,000+ jobs.

Yahoo - Taiwanese immigrant Jerry Yang. 8,600+ jobs.

45% of all High-Tech Fortune 500 firms were founded by immigrants.

Simplified list of what I consider the most noteworthy of the 216 Fortune 500 founded by immigrants or their children:

Apple (Syria)
AT&T (Scotland)
Ford Motor (Ireland)
Amazon.com (Cuba)
General Electric (England, Canada)
Verizon Communications (Scotland)
Costco Wholesale (Canada)
Walgreens Boots Alliance (Sweden)
Kroger (Germany)
JPMorgan Chase & Co. (Czech Republic)
Home Depot (Russia)
Boeing (Germany, Austria)
Bank of America Corp. (Italy)
Alphabet [Google] (Russia)
Citigroup (Poland)
Comcast (Germany)
International Business Machines [IBM] (Germany)
Phillips 66 (England, Scotland)
Procter & Gamble (England, Ireland)
PepsiCo (England, Germany)
United Parcel Service (Ireland)
Marathon Petroleum (Germany)
Walt Disney (Canada)
Pfizer (Germany)
Lockheed Martin (England)
Sysco (Russia)
Dow Chemical (Canada)
Merck (Germany)
Cigna (Ireland)
Honeywell International (Switzerland)
Goldman Sachs Group (Germany)
Oracle (Russia, Iran)
United Continental Holdings (Germany, Austria)
General Dynamics (Ireland)
3M (Canada)
Capital One Financial (England)
Twenty-First Century Fox (Hungary, Russia)
Philip Morris International (Germany)
Deere (England)
Kraft Heinz (Germany)
McDonald's (Ireland, Czech Republic)
DuPont (France)
Northrop Grumman (Germany)
Raytheon (Canada)
Qualcomm (Italy)
U.S. Bancorp (Scotland)
Dollar Tree (Canada)
Staples (Austria)
Southern (England)
Kohl's (Poland)
Lear (Germany)
PG&E Corp. (Canada)
CarMax (Austria and Russia)
Colgate-Palmolive (England)
Nordstrom (Sweden)
Aramark (Poland)
CBS (Ukraine)
Waste Management (Holland)
Office Depot (Russia)
Monsanto (Ireland)
Texas Instruments (England, Sweden, Norway)
Loews (Austria, Germany)
Viacom (Ukraine)
Bed Bath & Beyond (Russia)
Hilton Worldwide Holdings (Norway)
Estee Lauder (Hungary and Czechoslovakia, Hungary)
PayPal Holdings (Russia, Poland, Germany)
Priceline Group (Germany)
United States Steel (Scotland)
Hormel Foods (Germany)
Hertz Global Holdings (Germany)
MGM Resorts International (Armenia)
Fidelity National Information Services (England)
eBay (France)
Mohawk Industries (England (4x), Ireland)
Netflix (Austria)
Avis Budget Group (Russia)
Ralph Lauren (Belarus)
Tesla (South Africa)
Nvidia (Taiwan)
Dr Pepper Snapple Group (England, Romania)
Yum Brands [Pepsi, Taco Bell, PizzaHut, KFC] (England, Germany)
Oshkosh (Norway)
Harley-Davidson (England, Scotland)
Avon Products (Ireland)
Clorox (Ireland)
Owens Corning (Ireland)
S&P Global (Ireland)
Big Lots (Russia)
Toll Brothers (Ukraine)
Yahoo (Taiwan)

[Aristotle]

Some of the U.S.'s biggest companies are founded by immigrants

216 companies on the Fortune 500 were founded by immigrants or their children

Immigrant Founders of the Fortune 500

Immigrant-founded Fortune 500 firms are headquartered in 33 of the 50 states, employ 12.8 million people worldwide, and accounted for $5.3 trillion in global revenue in 2016.

Apple - Syrian immigrant son, Steve Jobs. 132,000+ jobs.

Amazon - Cuban refugee son, Jeff Bezos. 647,000+ jobs.

AT&T - Scottish immigrant Alexander Graham Bell. 250,000+ jobs.

Big Lots! - Russian immigrant Sol Shenk. 11,000+ jobs.

Capital One - British immigrant Nigel Morris. 50,000 jobs.

Colgate - British immigrant William Colgate. 37,700+ jobs.

Disney - Canadian immigrant Walt and Roy Disney.

eBay - French immigrant Pierre Omidyar. 14,000+ jobs. people

Ford - Irish immigrant son Henry Ford. 200,000+ jobs.

GE - Canadian immigrant Thomas Edison. 283,000+ jobs.

IBM - German immigrant Herman Hollerith. 350,000+ jobs.

Kohl's - Polish immigrant Maxwell Kohl. 136,000 jobs.

Google - Russian immigrant Sergey Brin. 85,000+ jobs.

McDonalds - Irish immigrants Richard and Maurice McDonald and Czech immigrant Ray Kroc. 210,000+ jobs.

Netflix - Austrian immigrant son, Marc Randolph.

Panda Express - Chinese immigrants Andrew and Peggy Cherng. 24,000+ jobs.

Pfizer - German immigrants Charles Pfizer and Charles Erhart. 96,500+ jobs.

Radio Shack - England immigrants Theodore and Milton Deutschmann. At one time 7,300 stores and 95% of Americans lived within 3 miles of a Radio Shack.

Tesla - South African immigrant Elon Musk. 18,000+ jobs.

Yahoo - Taiwanese immigrant Jerry Yang. 8,600+ jobs.

45% of all High-Tech Fortune 500 firms were founded by immigrants.

Simplified list of what I consider the most noteworthy of the 216 Fortune 500 founded by immigrants or their children:

Apple (Syria)
AT&T (Scotland)
Ford Motor (Ireland)
Amazon.com (Cuba)
General Electric (England, Canada)
Verizon Communications (Scotland)
Costco Wholesale (Canada)
Walgreens Boots Alliance (Sweden)
Kroger (Germany)
JPMorgan Chase & Co. (Czech Republic)
Home Depot (Russia)
Boeing (Germany, Austria)
Bank of America Corp. (Italy)
Alphabet [Google] (Russia)
Citigroup (Poland)
Comcast (Germany)
International Business Machines [IBM] (Germany)
Phillips 66 (England, Scotland)
Procter & Gamble (England, Ireland)
PepsiCo (England, Germany)
United Parcel Service (Ireland)
Marathon Petroleum (Germany)
Walt Disney (Canada)
Pfizer (Germany)
Lockheed Martin (England)
Sysco (Russia)
Dow Chemical (Canada)
Merck (Germany)
Cigna (Ireland)
Honeywell International (Switzerland)
Goldman Sachs Group (Germany)
Oracle (Russia, Iran)
United Continental Holdings (Germany, Austria)
General Dynamics (Ireland)
3M (Canada)
Capital One Financial (England)
Twenty-First Century Fox (Hungary, Russia)
Philip Morris International (Germany)
Deere (England)
Kraft Heinz (Germany)
McDonald's (Ireland, Czech Republic)
DuPont (France)
Northrop Grumman (Germany)
Raytheon (Canada)
Qualcomm (Italy)
U.S. Bancorp (Scotland)
Dollar Tree (Canada)
Staples (Austria)
Southern (England)
Kohl's (Poland)
Lear (Germany)
PG&E Corp. (Canada)
CarMax (Austria and Russia)
Colgate-Palmolive (England)
Nordstrom (Sweden)
Aramark (Poland)
CBS (Ukraine)
Waste Management (Holland)
Office Depot (Russia)
Monsanto (Ireland)
Texas Instruments (England, Sweden, Norway)
Loews (Austria, Germany)
Viacom (Ukraine)
Bed Bath & Beyond (Russia)
Hilton Worldwide Holdings (Norway)
Estee Lauder (Hungary and Czechoslovakia, Hungary)
PayPal Holdings (Russia, Poland, Germany)
Priceline Group (Germany)
United States Steel (Scotland)
Hormel Foods (Germany)
Hertz Global Holdings (Germany)
MGM Resorts International (Armenia)
Fidelity National Information Services (England)
eBay (France)
Mohawk Industries (England (4x), Ireland)
Netflix (Austria)
Avis Budget Group (Russia)
Ralph Lauren (Belarus)
Tesla (South Africa)
Nvidia (Taiwan)
Dr Pepper Snapple Group (England, Romania)
Yum Brands [Pepsi, Taco Bell, PizzaHut, KFC] (England, Germany)
Oshkosh (Norway)
Harley-Davidson (England, Scotland)
Avon Products (Ireland)
Clorox (Ireland)
Owens Corning (Ireland)
S&P Global (Ireland)
Big Lots (Russia)
Toll Brothers (Ukraine)
Yahoo (Taiwan)

[Aristotle]

Most so-called faux-conservatives of today forget that Ronald Reagan was massively pro immigration and also highly sympathetic to illegal immigrants.

He even wanted to allow completely open/free travel between Canada, the US, and Mexico.

Ronald Reagan on Immigration

I guess he didn't think Mexicans were rapists and murders like Trump does.