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    United Airlines and Airport security beat the shit out of innocent asian doctor.

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    United overbooks flight (this shouldn't even be legal). They need 4 seats at the last minute for their own standby employees. After offering $400, then $800, they choose people at random. One of them is a doctor with patients to see in the morning. They send in the jackbooted thug police to batter him until he is bleeding from the mouth, and then drag him off the plane.

    Chicago is an easy 5 hour drive from Louisville. United is run by idiots, and the level of authoritarian abuse rampant in our society has reached nightmarish levels.

    http://nypost.com/2017/04/10/dragged...booked-flight/

    Watch this short video when he got back on, beaten, bleeding from the face, confused, dazed, and traumatized, saying "just kill me, just kill me":

    https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/sta...80498186485760

    more:

    https://twitter.com/kaylyn_davis/sta...71574385307648

    I have no idea why we feel like the use of force is acceptable in nearly every situation after only a bare minimum of non-force options are used. Force should be an absolute last resort and should only be used when absolutely all other options have been exhausted. We really need to return to that mentality.
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    How is this even legal? If someone has a business, and I pay them to buy something, they can't just refuse to give me what I paid for, can they? Why can't I sue them for scamming me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xywalan View Post
    How is this even legal? If someone has a business, and I pay them to buy something, they can't just refuse to give me what I paid for, can they? Why can't I sue them for scamming me?
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    I think as a whole, society has become way more violent for things where violence would never have even been considered. The other problem I see as to why people just don't care about other people. It's ME vs EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. If I don't get it my way, then I will fly into a rage and beat you down (verbally/physically) until you give in.

    Very sad in my opinion and I am trying my hardest to raise a child conscious of his surroundings and other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halyanne View Post
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    I think as a whole, society has become way more violent for things where violence would never have even been considered. The other problem I see as to why people just don't care about other people. It's ME vs EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING. If I don't get it my way, then I will fly into a rage and beat you down (verbally/physically) until you give in.

    Very sad in my opinion and I am trying my hardest to raise a child conscious of his surroundings and other people.
    If society reinstated dueling as a means of settling arguments, there would be a lot fewer arguments.
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    I heard somewhere that UA did this because they had more bookings than room on the plane, and that this was therefore unlikely to happen again any time soon…

    Personally, I'm just glad I fly with Emirates or Air New Zealand. The ticket price may be in the three (or four) digits, but you're treated properly. Actually, that might be cause and effect; these kinds of stupidities are the result of airlines competing brutally on price, because they've run out of anything else to compete on. They can't do anything much about flight times (the in-air time is about at its minimum, and the on-ground time isn't really in their control), there's not many features you might want (unless they increase the luggage space on the plane), and there's basically nothing left for you to choose between other than exact flight schedules and price.

    What would YOU be willing to pay 50% more on your plane ticket for?
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    I heard somewhere that UA did this because they had more bookings than room on the plane, and that this was therefore unlikely to happen again any time soon…

    I heard it was because they had 4 UA employees that needed to get somewhere to staff a plane that was delayed so they wanted to bump people, so that by itself wasn't a terrible thing and not really due to overbooking but an airline emergency, I'm surprised no one took them up on the offer, all flights where they've done this I've seen have gotten volunteers pretty easy.

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    Blog, if that's the case, did they consider booking flights on a competing airline? I mean, you need to get four people from Airport X to Airport Y - is it cheaper to offer people $1000 each to step off the flight, or to buy tickets on another flight? Unless *every* flight is fully booked, that is, but I'd find that hard to believing.
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    The airlines are allowed to overbook flights to hedge against cancellations. In the event that passengers (who don't have seating assignments yet because they are overbookies) are not given a seat on the plane, the airline is required by US law to reimburse three times the cost of the ticket, up to 1300 dollars.

    It's not the airlines fault that American police (tsa, whatever) are out of control.

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    Wouldn't it be simpler to just make all tickets non-refundable, but transferable? That way the airline never actually loses money?
    If violence is not your last resort, you have failed to resort to enough of it.

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