Rachel Dolezal lies about being black. Leads NAACP chapter. Teaches Africana class.

[Kailen]

I'm not ignoring you. I just don't have hours of time to go looking up statistics on African American Crime...etc. I'm fairly confident on what will turn up.

This type of ideology is part of the problem, and part of the attitude that's associated with white privilege. Also, when I said research historical events. Their are strains of ideas that you espoused that lead me to believe that you don't believe any of these events happened. This is kind of akin to creation versus evolution. One is more scientific based.

What My post earlier is alluding to is: Several of these issues are not racially based, but class based. Also, A certain race should not receive preferential treatment just because they are white or black. If you show preferential treatment to African Americans to "Lift them up by their bootstraps", you are then persecuting white people.

This again goes back to the creationist and evolutionist argument. You can't deny historical events, and their impacts upon groups of people, ala colonialism, etc... Also by your logic, should the indigenous populations of America reject their checks from the events akin to the Trail of Tears, the slaughter of their food supply (Buffalo's) etc..

What we do want to ensure is that people are being treated fairly, held accountable for their actions in a fair manner, and given the same chances everyone else has.

You keep committing bad logic by never answering my questions about how people can be treated fairly when the laws and some institutions are intrinsically racist?

I fail to see entirely how one does not have the same chances just because of the fact that they are African American. I do see how one might not have the same chances because they belong to a certain economic ladder.

America was built on Race and Economics. From the early Irish, English, and Scottish immigrants until the current debate about America's immigration policy. If you weren't the ruling ethnic group, by default you were limited in your upward mobility regardless of your merit or hard work. But again, you failed to answer many of the other questions that I raised in previous post, and furthermore scantly acknowledge historical events that have major implications. It's hard to have meaningful advancements when such events are neglected.

I realize you may feel that that statement is splitting hairs, but it is vital to solving the problem. As long as people look at the current issues in society as racially motivated rather than issues of opportunity/class, correct resolutions will not be applied.

You're making assumptions now, because I don't think we are any closer than when we started this thread, which is sad; because I completely understand your perspective, and how others like you can arrive there. Inversely, yours and others dismissive rhetoric, hasty generalizations, and an overall unwillingness to entertain another American's plight is counterproductive, and widens the divide.

You've made sweeping claims on morals. You've made claims on crime etc... Let me tell you that most reasonable people of most ethnic and racial backgrounds desire an opportunity to provide their offspring a safe environment to raise their kids and family. They desire to assimilate into the greater society.

Last, one can't truly solve the problem without some understanding of the power structures of Race, Class, Ethnicity, Religion, Gender, and how they're used in society.

If we want to play the race card to further ourselves, I think the Undocumented Mexicans who live here will have a full deck.

Immigration now, is this another one of your red herrings?