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    The Terrifying Result Of The Militarization Of Police

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    The Terrifying Result Of The Militarization Of Police
    Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my Uncle Jack off a horse." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."

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    It is a sad state of affairs when the Illinois National Guard is going to have to be called back from over seas to suppress the other military force employed in the state. You know, since there seems to be a trend in politicians to not want citizens to have and/or use firearms.....


    Especially since scenarios just like this are the reason we have them.

    I've been saying this was going to happen for years. Here's my next prediction:

    Angry citizens ARE going to fire back. Massive gun confiscations will try to be enacted. War.
    If violence is not your last resort, you have failed to resort to enough of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromgor View Post
    I've been saying this was going to happen for years. Here's my next prediction:

    Angry citizens ARE going to fire back. Massive gun confiscations will try to be enacted. War.
    I could actually see this happening, and it is terrifying.
    Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my Uncle Jack off a horse." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."

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    This account from a citizen of St. Louis/Ferguson is important to consider:

    http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comment...treets/cjpr98a

    The media sells outrage, not the "news." The precipitating event is very much in question and really deserves to be investigated, as well as peaceful, nonviolent protests deserve to be allowed. It is the dangerous, violent element in St. Louis/Ferguson that is intensifying the situation.

    Massive gun confiscations will never happen. The simple and unfortunate fact of the matter is if you are a white, pro-2nd Amendment citizen you are not even on the radar of law enforcement until you do something stupid. It is only when minorities are in view of the police that things start to get weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolen View Post
    The simple and unfortunate fact of the matter is if you are a white, pro-2nd Amendment citizen you are not even on the radar of law enforcement until you do something stupid. It is only when minorities are in view of the police that things start to get weird.
    I think you are right.

    The older I get, the more often I encounter situations where everything goes completely smoothly almost entirely because I am a white male.
    Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my Uncle Jack off a horse." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."

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    It is funny, among my white male friends who "hate the police" they almost seem to seek confrontation with them and it boggles my mind. If you are not on their radar, why would you even want to put yourself there? Some of them do it for "solidarity" with those who are affected most by the police to which I say to them, "save it, you aren't helping the issue by getting locked up for stupidity." My parents always taught me to comply with police orders and that the street was not the place to make my arguments. There is certainly a culture of anti-police mentality amongst minorities (even members of my own family have some rather unfortunate things to say about them), but it only serves to antagonize and complicate already tense situations. Yes, both sides need work but someone has to take the first step. I would rather set the tone for something than have it set for me by being the one to act first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristotle View Post
    I think you are right.

    the more often I encounter situations where everything goes completely smoothly almost entirely because I am a white male.
    Praise big baby Jesus for this perspective, this is a huge acknowledgment.
    You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolen View Post
    It is funny, among my white male friends who "hate the police" they almost seem to seek confrontation with them and it boggles my mind.
    Yeah, this is like white privilege all the way.

    It baffles my mind as well, since I've seen through my own life experiences similar situation with meth and crack that had completely different outcomes. One person put on ice, and the other was escorted, and awarded rehab.


    The unfortunate thing about this. The majorities perspective won't change until its their sons that are hastily put on ice within a situation that other tools could have been used. I equate this ideology to the rampant change in the weed laws. When minorities were only being incarcerated for minor non violent possession of marijuana. Oh crap, they are animals. We need to lock them up within the prison
    industrial complex that many politicians and big corporations profit from. When white boys with similar charges were getting sent up state, and having their futures destroyed. It became a problem, and the push to adjust the laws followed suit.

    All, and all acknowledgement is always the firs step. The adjustment of laws would be a good second step, and parents educating themselves and kids the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristotle View Post
    I could actually see this happening, and it is terrifying.

    In some circles, DHS wants to take over local policing operations. One of my buddy's jokes how at night in one county there are only 4 LE that cover the entire county of 30k citizens.
    You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it.
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    I don't really understand the whole "white privilege" thing. I hear about it a lot, don't get me wrong. I have a general idea of the concept, and are there still people who discriminate based on race? Sure.

    Yet, a quick look at criminal statistics show that black on black murders FAR outweigh any other combination. As a white man, I don't get a law that states a certain percentage of employees must be "my type." I have no "NAACP" variation that speaks up for my rights. No president ever has, or ever will, give a speech when I'm murdered by someone of a different race. There are no programs/grants/etc. in place to give me college money, with one of the requirements being that I be white.

    By and large, I have yet to see someone point out where I have such a huge advantage from being white from. There's racists on both sides of the issue, and yet nobody ever seems to call out anybody but the white ones. Why is that, if "white privilege" is the only privilege?

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