Very much so."This isn't for talking about when it works. This is for talking about when it doesn't work."
People really need to start putting themselves in others' shoes regarding this.
If me and any of my friends were at a conference and were making rude innuendos to ourselves and a woman turned around and asked us to stop, I'm pretty certain we'd both be totally cooperative and massively embarassed and apologetic.
If she turned around and took our pictures and put us up in the public domain I'm pretty certain we'd be mortified at the time and furious about it afterwards.
But then not all men are like me and my friends, some are total cunts. That doesn't mean it's right to just assume we all are, though, because of the selectively biased past experiences.
If I was a woman who felt threatened and/or disgusted by the actions of two men, how would I react? I don't know.
Maybe I'd ask them to stop, but then maybe I've had bad experiences before and had to put up with sexism in basically every aspect of my life, making me reticent to do so.
Maybe I'd do what she did, thinking that "name and shame" is the best policy.
But then is making sexual innuendos inherently sexist? Is being vulgar a crime in which one should be "shopped"? I'd say no.
Maybe these two guys are total gents, but a bit disgusting when with each other. Let's be honest, we can all be vulgar and rude while being funny with each other in a friendly capacity. Is it anyone's business, if it's not directed at them?
I think the 2 guys could have been more professional, but I also don't think, on balance, that the reaction was a measured response. Who hasn't made double entendres when with their colleagues/friends?
A total fucking train wreck, basically.


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