Why you may never see Flash on your iDevice

[Bael]

For some crazy reason Steve Jobs (aka - Apple) hates Adobe Flash. No one really knows for certain why though. This article is probably one of the best looks into the reasons why it might be. Rather informative.

[Quilandros]

In my opinion there's a really simple answer to this question.

If Apple supported Flash on the iPhone / iPad, then no one would ever need to buy an app. Seriously, what can you do in an iPhone app that can't be done in Flash or Silverlight, for free?

Apple gets 30% straight of the top of any app purchased. You do the math.

This recent slamming of Adobe from Apple is pretty nasty when you consider that Adobe software basically put Apple on the map.

[Bael]

Is it only 30% off the top for apps? I know they were getting like 50% off the top for every song you download from iTunes (which is why the recording industry hates Apple). But yeah, it's all really funny. I just think it's especially funny how Apple is making all these excuses instead of giving their customers what they want/deserve. I've actually seen something recently where if your iPad's battery gets fucked up, they're going to replace the whole iPad, so you lose all your shit. How nice of them.

[Rosuav]

Originally posted by Bael
I've actually seen something recently where if your iPad's battery gets fucked up, they're going to replace the whole iPad, so you lose all your shit. How nice of them.

That's true of most warranty jobs these days. It's so much easier to just say "It's not working? Here's a replacement, brand new, off the shelf" than to repair yours. Unfortunately, it's a bit harder with embedded devices than with PCs - you can't just remove your hard drive before you get a warranty swap.

[Aristotle]

Originally posted by Rosuav
That's true of most warranty jobs these days.

For the device maybe, but not the freakin' battery.

[Rosuav]

Originally posted by Aristotle
For the device maybe, but not the freakin' battery.

Are we talking about the world as it would be run by intelligent people, or a cynical look at the world by someone who's seen too many idiots run things?

Actually, there is some merit in changing the whole device when the battery's at fault. If the fault is actually with the charging circuitry, then changing the battery just means there'll be another warranty call shortly afterwards. (Also - how hard is it to remove the battery? Is it something the manufacturer can reasonably expect any idiot to be able to do safely?) I agree it *should* be a separate item, but as per the Windmill Law, what should happen and what does happen are two very different things.

[Aristotle]

Are you just being contrary here? It kinda seems like it, and I'd like to know so then I can just not bother with the discussion.

I shouldn't have to explain why replacing a $500+ device (with all sorts of data and apps already stored on it, that you will subsequently lose temporarily or permanently) simply to replace a battery makes no sense and is hardly expected or common behavior.

[anthson]

Originally posted by Rosuav
If the fault is actually with the charging circuitry, then changing the battery just means there'll be another warranty call shortly afterwards.

Seemed pretty straightforward, to me.

[Rosuav]

Originally posted by Aristotle
Are you just being contrary here? It kinda seems like it, and I'd like to know so then I can just not bother with the discussion.

I shouldn't have to explain why replacing a $500+ device (with all sorts of data and apps already stored on it, that you will subsequently lose temporarily or permanently) simply to replace a battery makes no sense and is hardly expected or common behavior.

I am speaking from experience with laptops, both as an end customer and as a reseller. In multiple situations, the entire laptop has had to be returned to the supplier (not the manufacturer in this instance) because of a fault that could have been solved by the replacement of one small part - battery, hard disk, whatever it be. Expected behaviour? Certainly not. Common? Can't say, but it's common with Macquarie IT Services. I sure hope it's not the case everywhere, but it's definitely not unheardof.

If you don't believe me, you're most welcome to take up a dealership. We're pulling out of it - there's no money left in the business, thanks in part to stupid policies like this. I've no idea what the future is for Macquarie, but most likely they'll have a steady supply of dealers who think they can make money at the prices Macq sell their stuff at, and then get burnt on the surrounds.

[Caer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the batteries not replaceable (by users) on most Apple devices? I seem to remember hearing that somewhere. If so, we're not just talking about potential situations where a new battery didn't solve the problem (in which receiving a new device might be more acceptable - though data loss would still be a major peeve) - rather, we're also talking about situations where the battery simply wore down through use and you have to put up with a new device when yours was otherwise perfectly fine.