Originally posted by Snrrub

You incorrectly claimed that the US Bill of Rights and American freedoms are, "second to none", and I gave explicit examples of when that wasn't the case. Either come out and concede the point, or give me a counter argument.



What the fuck are you talking about?



This seems like nothing more than semantics to me. What I said is that people in the US can become rich easier than in other nations, but that does not imply that it's impossible in other nations, which is what you initially claimed.



Yes, I know that 'free' university tuition has to be payed for by tax payers. But that doesn't change the fact that a university level education is accessible to everyone, and that with a university education, middle class lifestyles are easily achieved. Hence my conclusion - a middle class lifestyle is easier to achieve in a more socialized country like Norway, than it is in the United States. However, because of the higher tax burden that accompanies social programs, becoming rich is more difficult than in the United States.



Firstly, you're wrong; most scientific and engineering research is unrelated to military projects. Secondly, most military research projects are contracted out to academia via. DARPA grants.

I'll respond to the rest of what you said later. [/B]

Anyhow, If you aren't gonna use the entire context of my sentences. Why should we talk about things? , and if you have to use vulgarity to make your point then why even attempt to make the point in the first place. I'm sorry that you are getting frustrated. That wasn't my intentions.