Olympic bosses defend faked ceremony song

[Aristotle]

Honestly, if the only reason for the lip syncing was that, it would be better.

But no, they awe value of a little girl being so cute and singing so well, regardless of the truth of the matter. I don't mind a fully orchestrated, edited, altered, CGI'd performance if it is really good and I am not lied to in advance and told it is live/real.

[Belaraiya]

I don't even want to think about the ramifications this will have on that poor child in the future.

It's one thing to be told in private you fail because you're not physically appealing enough for the product/event, but to have the entire world know you were passed over for being fat?

I feel so bad for this poor little girl, I just hope her family is more supportive than the celebration comittee was.

[Deryk]

I must be completely missing the boat on this.

A decision was made based on physical looks and ability and it has become this international outrage. I just think this is the type of thing that happens every day in some degree in every country. Why's this such a big deal now?

[Gromgor]

The next thing you know the French and Russians will be giving out more pleasing scores because the actual scores aren't pretty enough......


.....wait. This kind of crap is the epitome of Olympic behavior


:| <- This is a photograph of my face right now. I'm completely indifferent towards this kind of behavior. And outrage because somebody put on a spectacle during the Olympic Games? In a world where they are actually testing the "female" athletes to make sure they're not actually packing sausage (if you know what I mean) you're worried about some little kid with a nice voice but an ugly mug not being put in front of an audience of MILLIONS of people covering the whole fucking world.

That's reality. I forget who said it. I don't much care. But "The measure of one's idealism is directly in proportion to one's distance from the scenario".

Make a decision as the producer. Ugly kid that can sing? Attractive kid that can't? Or do you take the better parts of both of them and make something for the whole world to see?

Oh, and you're working with a budget that has more zeros in it than the Miley Cyrus fanclub.

Hmm....

[utugra]

Originally posted by Gromgor
Oh, and you're working with a budget that has more zeros in it than the Miley Cyrus fanclub.

Hmm....

Bahahaha!!!

Thank you, you just made my week!

[Pae]

Originally posted by Aristotle

Find someone who sings good enough and is cute enough. Don't perpetrate a fraud.

Ari, I think I too will have to side with Karahd and Deryk on this. There are far far far worse things going on in China, and yet we only start to care about the Chinese government when they tell a little girl that she is not cute enough for stage?

I am confused as to what exactly you are upset about. If you are upset that a little girl was rather unceremoniously told she was ugly (and the possible psychological damage that could do) - that does happen everyday in Hollywood.

Honestly, both parties agreed. The girl singing was willing just to sing. The girl performing was willing just to perform.

If you are upset that you were given a bait and switch, how do you feel about body doubles? Stunt doubles? Go to a broadway performance and I guarantee at least half are lip syncing to their own pre-recorded stuff at some point in the show. And you thought you were watching a LIVE performance! *gasps* So many other things are along the same lines. How about this did you see Star Wars Ep 1, 2, 3? What about the nastiness that went on with David Prowse? Why not be outraged at George Lucas?

Show business is attempting to put on the greatest show possible for entertainment purposes. It isn't about anything else.

I agree it is kind of sucky but they chose to give it a shot, they wanted the best possible performance.


I again echo Karahd and wonder, if we as a society are outraged at this more than we are about years of oppression, violence, executions, and so many other atrocities, I would argue that we are a shallow society no better than theirs.

[Katidyd]

It's more interesting to see who bashes China but laughs along when Simon belittles the fat/ugly kids who think they can be an American Idol.

[Gesslar]

Maybe the first Season, Katidyd.

But after that, everybody knows what Simon is like. They've had their ample warning. I think they want it.

And I wish you would have added qualifiers to you statement, because bashing China for their human rights issues is completely on a different level. In the US, you have the right to much much more, including showing upon a show where you have the foreknowledge that the TV show judge will be tearing you a new anus.

[Aristotle]

Originally posted by Deryk

A decision was made based on physical looks and ability and it has become this international outrage. I just think this is the type of thing that happens every day in some degree in every country. Why's this such a big deal now?

That's not what happened.

They perpetrated a fraud.

I could care less what their selection criterion are for choosing who would sing. Pick whoever has the best combination of singing/looks and go with that girl. Don't pick one girl, tell her she going to be the one, then later decide to just pre-record her voice, slap it onto a cuter chick, and tell the world "look at this girl sing live, and she's also so cute!" They lied about it being a live performance. They lied that it was the girl on screen singing.

At least when someone loses out at an audition they don't know for sure why. They aren't told "you had the best voice, but you're just too ugly."

Pae: Of course there are worse things going on in China. But in this thread this is the issue. Otherwise, the only topic we could ever discuss is whatever is *the* most important and horrible thing going on. You would only need one forum and one thread for that one issue.

And Katidyd: I don't watch American Idol, largely because the negativity of it was out of control.

[Deryk]

I think that is exactly what happened. They made a decision based on how one girl looked and another girl sang. It was solely based on looks and ability.

Is what happened fraud? Based on the definitions of fraud I've seen, it sure was. That's not what I'm addressing.

Maybe I should clarify my statements. I'm not arguing whether or not it was fraud. I'm looking at blogs and articles where everyone seems to be getting on the "Poor chubby girl" bandwagon. That's what I think is ridiculous. Judgments seem to be made based on looks/ability every day. If they want to make a big deal of this particular issue then maybe the should focus on the fraud aspect.

As for the auditions, I know a few people that have auditioned for parts in plays and a few commercials that were told things like "You don't have the look we want" or "Maybe if you lost a few pounds". The one who got the comment about the weight was a little upset, but they got over it because apparently it's the way that some things are just done in that particular business.