Originally posted by Malacasta
Pyrosama, I don't disagree with anything you've said, but it's got nothing much to do with the objectification of women.
I understand that. But when I'm in a strip club, appreciating a lovely stripper, I'm not DEvaluing the other aspects of her personality and/or intellect. What I'm saying is that I'm appreciating HER work at the moment, don't really give a hoot about her personality and/or intellect, family ties, history. That is NOT what I'm there for and that's definitely not what she's there for.

If I were to intrude on her personal life and expect to capitalize off her friendliness during a lapdance by trying to "hookup" with a phone number...that's then crossing the line and is not okay in any way. I would say that yes, that would be devaluing the person by associating their acts with their personal being and that's wrong.

The objectification of women is about separating sexuality from the other valuable aspects of a woman's being/person when you should be accepting the total package. In the case of being in a strip club, you're accepting (or should be accepting) their competence as a stripper ONLY. If I objectify anyone, it's because they went there first. Mutual respect and interaction.

I know the difference I think. I would never want to be devalued at my workplace, so I would never do that to another woman, ever. No matter where she works.