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  1. #11
    Tree Frog
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    Originally posted by Gromgor
    I say do away with Marriages as an institutional recognized as legal in the eyes of the government. Marriage is a product of religion. Let EVERYONE have a civil union for legal reasons and let people choose to have marriages if their religion so dictates.
    Here! Here!

    +1

    And exactly why i put off getting married for 7 years...until the reigns tightened :-)
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    Originally posted by kestra
    Here, here!!
    Regarding smoking, Calgary has banned smoking in bars. Everybody whinned that business would suffer as a result. It hasn't.
    You shouldn't be keen on letting go of any personal freedoms. Of course, you guys already lost your right to own firearms, so that's a pretty paltry loss at your current standing.
    Stranger, observe our laws! We have both swords and shovels and we doubt that anyone would miss you.

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    The loss of firearms is stupid since the point of "government shall not infringe" is so, should it be necassary as deemed by the masses, one is able to overthrow the governement and has the tools to do so.

    As such, if it ever comes to pass the citizens decide it should happen, then legal guns or not, they're going to get them anyway.
    If violence is not your last resort, you have failed to resort to enough of it.

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    You shouldn't be keen on letting go of any personal freedoms.
    Nice try, but I ain't biting! Smokers will get zero sympathy from me.
    I know you believe you understand what you think I said. But I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant.

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    Originally posted by Savaric
    You shouldn't be keen on letting go of any personal freedoms. Of course, you guys already lost your right to own firearms, so that's a pretty paltry loss at your current standing.
    The ban on smoking in public is us taking back personal freedoms. It means we are no longer victims of smokers forcing their habit upon us.

    But I imagine that is another thread entirely - one we have discussed a few times here.
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    Originally posted by Aristotle
    The ban on smoking in public is us taking back personal freedoms. It means we are no longer victims of smokers forcing their habit upon us.

    But I imagine that is another thread entirely - one we have discussed a few times here.
    I agree with that. I think Kestra just glossed over my point that individual states (ie. the people) should be regulating and deciding what is in their best health, wealfare, and safety rather than the federal government deciding what everyone will be doing based on the influence of a small group.

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