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    In previous wars, and especially seen in the Iraq shitstorm that was Desert Storm, a lot of stock/archive photography was used that was 'discovered' not to be the events reported. The news agencies defence was that they still 'reflected' the events even if they were not of the events themselves.

    Looking at it from the news agencies point of view, they want pictures to go with stories. If they haven't got a photographer nearby or there are no indpendants in the area then the dramatic impact of the scene is essentially lost without pictures. Getting someone there late isn't much use either, as teh most dramatic pictures will be in teh immediate aftermath. So if it's a car bomb, solution - use a picture of another car bomb. Most people won't notice, and if they do, they can deal with it then.

    However, there's no conspiracy here. It's a cynical ploy to sell more papers. That's all. It's lazy but it's not an anti-Israel plot.

    On the subject of pictures containing childrens toys, I think it's pretty well known that Photographers stick them into scenes to make them more dramatic. The most well known case of this that I am aware of was with the Pan-Am Lockerbie tragedy where a jet crashed into the town of Lockerbie after a bomb went off on board. Onlookers was disgusted to see photographers scattering childrens toys, clothes and other belongings in the main wreckage site because everything was pretty much destroyed. It's the price tags that are the dead giveaway.
    Last edited by Kraxe; August 24th, 2006 at 05:57 AM.

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    I'm not saying the photoes are authentic, however we see no evidence at all proving the fraud. Gut feelings can be very misleading, as very amazing or impossible phenomenons can happen. The most impressive one that I can remember from memory is from a discovery documentary about a Russian plane crash.
    Well, I searched a bit and found a link to the incident:

    Bashkirian Airlines Flight 2937
    Long story short two airplanes collide and then crash down and then this russian architect:

    "He is reported to have suffered a nervous breakdown following the loss of his entire family, especially since he was one of the first relatives to arrive at the crash site. Kaloyev participated in the search for the bodies and, tragically enough, located his own daughter's body, which was surprisingly intact (unlike his wife's and son's, which were found only days later, mutilated)."

    Yes, an intact body of a child after a plane crash. Now you tell me it's impossible for dolls to survive dust free. It's NOT impossible thus to prove fraud you must present EVIDENCE. As long as no evidence is presented, it's all propaganda.
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    Moderator Note: An entirely off topic sub-thread has been removed in the interests of keepin this large, contentious thread on-topic (this includes the removal of about 8 or so of my own posts). I hope this is not a problem for anyone, and I hope you can all see the benefits of trying to keep the thread on-topic. It was getting badly derailed.
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