This is a thread for discussion of various things upcoming about Vista.
Pazon emailed me this link, and it is pretty amusing.
The process of deleting a shortcut in Vista.
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June 1st, 2006 12:28 PM #1Administrator
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Microsoft Windows Vista
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June 1st, 2006 02:42 PM #2Fire Bellied Toad
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I cannot even think of anything to say.Sure, I got a secret. More 'n one. Don't seem likely I tell 'em to you now, do it? Anyone off Titan colony knows better than to talk to strangers. You're talkin' loud enough for the both of us, though, ain't ya? I've met a dozen like you. Skipped off-home early. Minor graft jobs here and there. Spent some time in the lockdown, but less than you claim. And you're, what, a petty thief with delusions standing? Sad little king of a sad little hill.
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June 1st, 2006 02:56 PM #3Tree Frog
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Wow, and I thought that XP was tedius with confirmations. Egads.
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June 1st, 2006 09:46 PM #4Moderator
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Microsoft must have a lot of people dedicated to coding security measures. Unfortunately:
- Windows does need such a team (it has so many security risks)
- The people doing security don't have full sway with the people doing other aspects of Windows
- Security is added afterwards, instead of being incorporated from the ground up.
Consequently, heaps of code is put into Windows (and various MS applications, eg Office) to protect the user from themselves, from rogues on the internet, and from misbehaving programs. Alas, if only they'd think about the risks when first coding some feature (ActiveX, anyone?) instead of having to retrofit some safety systems afterwards (digital signing by Microsoft, etc).
What you see there is the result of many different teams' code affecting one operation.- Step two is quite right - confirm deletion. Everything should confirm that sort of thing.
- Step three. If someone had coded heuristically, the check for whether or not the file can go into the recycle bin would be done before the first confirmation, and the deletion dialog would be altered to reflect that.
- Step four boggles. "You don't have permission to do that, want to do it anyway?"
- Step five boggles too. So Windows doesn't trust its own file operations??!?
- Steps six and seven are perfectly logical - save that Windows reckoned it couldn't put it in the recycle bin. Bwah?
Unfortunately, security systems like steps four and five are too separate from the rest of Windows. The right way to implement such things is right with the rest of the code - on the file level, for file ownership. Not on the GUI level.The man who gets angry at the right things and with the right people, and in the right way and at the right time and for the right length of time, is commended. - Aristotle (but not the Aristotle you're thinking of)
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June 2nd, 2006 05:05 AM #5Tree Frog
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WTF? Is this for real? If so, I would be amazed that windows can still surprise us with stupid features. And I was thinking that little "You're running out of space on drive D" was annoying.
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June 2nd, 2006 05:25 AM #6tadpole
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I know a few people who are using vista, and I have used it myself for a while (cd was unavailable though last format, else i wouldve been running it now)
And I have no experienced, nor heard this happen to anyone, and I asked after reading this.
Vista works not at all for some (crashes, bblue screens, freezes and the like) And perfect for other (lucky me), but we got the beta so that is not inexcusable.
Even for windows this link seems a bit over the top,
it might have happened the first time they tried something like this, but they probably removed it.
That is, if the screens are real, which is debatableAnd would you want to see, if seeing meant that you would have to believe
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August 8th, 2006 04:13 PM #7Bullfrog
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I wish this video wasn't so blurry. It's funny though how they always manage to screw up very important demos.
Vista Demo
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August 9th, 2006 04:02 AM #8Bullfrog
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Bahahahah!Originally posted by Pyrosama
I wish this video wasn't so blurry. It's funny though how they always manage to screw up very important demos.
Vista Demo
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August 10th, 2006 08:58 AM #9Moderator
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This really is most fascinating. A noteworthy point: The press went there doubting, disliking, already ready to do a negative report. Microsoft just gave them some really nice material. Even if the demo had gone flawlessly, every (or at least most of) report would have been negative. Why do I say this?Originally posted by Pyrosama
I wish this video wasn't so blurry. It's funny though how they always manage to screw up very important demos.
Vista Demo
Obviously preconceptions DO affect the output. I don't think anyone would try to claim that journalists/reporters/etc/etc are absolutely 100% unbiased. When you see a demo of something you like, and want to speak positively of, and it goes wrong, you feel embarrassed. But when things started going wrong here, everyone laughed... and, truth to tell, I can't blame 'em!The man who gets angry at the right things and with the right people, and in the right way and at the right time and for the right length of time, is commended. - Aristotle (but not the Aristotle you're thinking of)
The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. - Albert Einstein
Mainly to keep a lid on the world's cat population. - Anon
I pressed the Ctrl key, but I'm still not in control!
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August 10th, 2006 10:40 AM #10Bullfrog
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LOL.......are you sure that you're sure about being sure that you want to delete this shortcut? you sure?
I remember seeing a clip years ago of a windows 98 demo at a conferrence, with this guy showing how great it was, with Bill Gates mere inches away, when the blue screen of death came up in front of hundreds of viewers. Hilarious!!Last edited by kestra; August 10th, 2006 at 10:46 AM.
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