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    Please God, Let This Invention Work

    A miracle?

    Can this man save the world?

    Basically, the H2N-Gen contains a small reservoir of distilled water and other chemicals such as potassium hydroxide. A current is run from the car battery through the liquid. This process of electrolysis creates hydrogen and oxygen gases which are then fed into the engine's intake manifold where they mix with the gasoline vapours.

    It's a scientific fact that adding hydrogen to a combustion chamber will cause a cleaner burn. The challenge has always been to find a way to get the hydrogen gas into the combustion chamber in a safe, reliable and cost-effective way.

    Williams claims he has achieved this with his H2N-Gen. His product, he said, produces a more complete burn, greatly increasing efficiency and reducing fuel consumption by 10 to 40 per cent - and pollutants by up to 100 per cent.

    Most internal combustion engines operate at about 35 per cent efficiency. This means that only 35 per cent of the fuel is fully burned. The rest either turns to carbon corroding the engine or goes out the exhaust pipe as greenhouse gases.

    The H2N-Gen increases burn efficiency to at least 97 per cent, Williams said. This saves fuel and greatly reduces emissions.

    It also means less engine maintenance and oil changes. The only thing the vehicle owner has to do is refill the unit with distilled water once every 80 hours of engine use.
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    Somehow the implementaion of this in automobiles will get bogged down in legislation. Too much money is risked being lost by oil companies.
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    I don't buy that. If people get better gas milage, that just means they'll drive more and buy bigger cars.
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    That's the leap in logic big corporations never seem to make. All they see is the billions they're already making and they take the philosophy, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Well, it's broke, guys.

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    I think you're all mistaking where the money is made. It's not in creating a sub par product. In cases like refrigerators, a/c's and so forth where there's no drawback to efficiency, industry is all too happy to give us efficiency. When people have to decide between fuel efficiency and being able to get their stuff from point a to point b all in one trip, people choose size often as not.

    The trick is convincing you that your work is worth a whole lot less than theirs so that you happily give up what would be your fair share of the corporate profits, or even subsidizing huge industries with public monies while the administrators and owners of those companies make millions even if they run the thing into the dirt.

    As for the oil industry, I have heard enough to believe there has been some price gauging lately, so I'm not in a mood to be an apologist for them, but by and large the same people will be well positioned to branch out into whatever alternative energy sources eventually find their ways to the market. They may be greedy, but there's no reason for them to be stupid where the development of new technology is concerned.
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    um, not really.

    Ok, as an engineer, I have a couple problems with this:

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    Most internal combustion engines operate at about 35 per cent
    efficiency. This means that only 35 per cent of the fuel is fully
    burned. The rest either turns to carbon corroding the engine or
    goes out the exhaust pipe as greenhouse gases.

    Rebuttle:

    This is a grossly written statement. Most internal combustion engines operate at 35% efficiency. True. What that means, is that 35% of the energy generated by the engine is actually going toward moving your car, running your alternator and air conditioner, etc. it has nothing to do with combustion efficiency. Even if 100% of the gasoline was being burned, the trouble with combustion engines is that most of the heat produced is lost due to radiative heat losses.

    Also, if any car on the road allowed 65% of its fuel to go unburned into the atmosphere, it would NEVER pass emmisions inspections. I just had my car inspected recently, the UHC (unburned hydro-carbons) was like 1%. Again, even though my car burned 99% of the fuel (combined between the engine itself and the exhaust system that removes UHC's) it only used 35% of the fuel energy to actually move the car. The rest is eaten up by friction and radiative heat losses.

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    The H2N-Gen increases burn efficiency to at least 97 per cent, Williams said. This saves fuel and greatly reduces emissions.

    Rebuttle:

    We are already burning 99% of the fuel. Adding Hydrogen to the system will give a 'hotter' burn which will keep down the engine deposits. Todays newer cars already have a 're-burn' system. They burn the UHC's in the exhaust system, pumping the nitrous-oxides back into the engines to combust a second time. The higher efficiency of this H2N-Gen system comes from the hotter burn and the fact that its putting 10 pounds of crap into an 8 pound bag, directly increasing the compression ratio. This, by the way, may save you a few oil changes, but expect to have piston and valve trouble later in the car life.

    Just my two slags.

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