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September 15th, 2005 08:13 AM
#15
Originally posted by Rosuav
Not quite. Christianity is the new covenant; the old (under which the Jews lived) was designed to point people to Christ. When Jesus came, lived, died, and defeated death through his restoration to life, the old covenant was obsoleted - one might say, marked out of use, such that garbage collection could eliminate it. (Trust Rosuav to bring geekiness into even this!)
I don't know how into all the end times mess you are into, but this is merely one possible interpretation. Some point to how Paul chastised Peter for allowing some Jews to try to force too much Judaism on the Gentile believers, then turned right around and participated in Judaic practices himself, and suggest that the promises made to the Jews are not yet entirely come to pass, and won't be complete until the 144,000 and all that jazz.
Originally posted by Rosuav
God's plan was for the nation to welcome the new ways with open arms, though in His sovereignty He knew that some would not.
I think this is demonstrably untrue. The Bible says point blank that God anticipates a great turning away before the end times, not an obedient and Godly Israel. What's funny to me is that the most popularly known version of end times prophecy, the Left Behind series, is actually one of the less literal interpretations of the prophecy, and yet it still retains so much supernatural reference. I wonder what Muslim's believe about the end times and so forth? Maybe Ejda knows.
Still, I think you're more or less preaching to the choir here. I am not sure how to tie this in to the whole Christian/Muslim theme of the thread, other than maybe to point out that Islam sprang up hundreds of years after Christ and in a people group substantially set apart from the original Jews, or anyone that was practicing a lot of Christianity either. Make of that what you will.
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