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    British influencing the US election

    The Guardian newspaper doesn't support Bush. So they offered out addresses of people in the state of Ohio to interested Guardian readers, hoping they'd be able to sway swing voters to vote for Kerry. Anyway, here's a few of the amusing responses the newspaper has received (from http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselection...329858,00.html)

    "Have you not noticed that Americans don't give two shits what Europeans think of us? Each email someone gets from some arrogant Brit telling us why to NOT vote for George Bush is going to backfire, you stupid, yellow-toothed pansies ... I don't give a rat's ass if our election is going to have an effect on your worthless little life. I really don't. If you want to have a meaningful election in your crappy little island full of shitty food and yellow teeth, then maybe you should try not to sell your sovereignty out to Brussels and Berlin, dipshit. Oh, yeah - and brush your goddamned teeth, you filthy animals.
    Wading River, NY"


    Now now old chap, no need to get personal..



    "Consider this: stay out of American electoral politics. Unless you would like a company of US Navy Seals - Republican to a man - to descend upon the offices of the Guardian, bag the lot of you, and transport you to Guantanamo Bay, where you can share quarters with some lonely Taliban shepherd boys.
    United States"

    Hmm interesting. What fucking planet do you live on though?

    "I am a student and life-long resident of Clark County, Ohio. I just wanted you to know that this is a wonderful idea you've initiated; people here love and respect the United Kingdom, especially the prime minister. I hope this campaign will be successful for your newspaper and for us voters.
    Springfield, Ohio"

    Sorry Springfield, you sound retarded.

    "KEEP YOUR FUCKIN' LIMEY HANDS OFF OUR ELECTION. HEY, SHITHEADS, REMEMBER THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR? REMEMBER THE WAR OF 1812? WE DIDN'T WANT YOU, OR YOUR POLITICS HERE, THAT'S WHY WE KICKED YOUR ASSES OUT. FOR THE 47% OF YOU WHO DON'T WANT PRESIDENT BUSH, I SAY THIS ... TOUGH SHIT!
    PROUD AMERICAN VOTING FOR BUSH!"

    Feisty...


    "Real Americans aren't interested in your pansy-ass, tea-sipping opinions. If you want to save the world, begin with your own worthless corner of it.
    Texas, USA"

    Ok, sorry.

    I especially liked this one, this guy has a sense of humour:

    "My dear, beloved Brits,
    I understand the Guardian is sponsoring a service where British citizens write to Americans to advise them on how to vote. Thank heavens! I was adrift in a sea of confusion and you are my beacon of hope!

    Feel free to respond to this email with your advice. Please keep in mind that I am something of an anglophile, so this is not confrontational. Please remember, too, that I am merely an American. That means I am not very bright. It means I have no culture or sense of history. It also means that I am barely literate, so please don't use big, fancy words.

    Set me straight, folks!
    Dayton, Ohio "

    Poor confused man! a convinced Kerryite now I'm sure..

    "Please be advised that I have forwarded this to the CIA and FBI.
    United States"

    like they give a fuck...


    "Keep your noses out of our business. As I recall we kicked your asses out of our country back in 1776. We do not require input from losers and idiots on who we vote for in our own country. Fuck off and die asshole!!!!!
    Knoxville, Iowa"

    I bet you'd get censored in an American newspaper =)

    "I used to visit the UK every year. I love the history and culture of your country. But after I heard about your campaign to influence our elections, I've decided that neither myself, nor my family will ever visit again. I'm offended by your campaign and because of it, I'm remembering more of the negative aspects I've seen in the UK than the positive ones. Though I still love the castles!
    Detroit"

    You're a strange one. The Guardian is read by perhaps 5% of the population. Taking it as representative of the UK population on the whole is bizarre. You're a fucktard Detroit. The castles didn't like you anyway =)

    Anyway, theres lots lots more at the link above, check it out its good for a laugh.

    -tharun

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    Speaking as a brit, we have every right to influence the americans.

    America believes it rules the world, and as it has the money, it can afford the nukes to continue its dreams. But influencing an election, we can get someone good in power who actually cares about the planet we call home, instead of just more money.

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    Originally posted by kiania
    Speaking as a brit, we have every right to influence the americans.
    One small problem. It is illegal.

    -> You chuckle saying, "Yeah, the law... that pesky thing"

    That said, Brits are definitely entitled to an opinion about how things go here and how they hope things go.

    Not only because they are another country in the world, but because they are one of our closest allies and whatever happens here affects our relationship.
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    Originally posted by kiania
    Speaking as a brit, we have every right to influence the americans.

    America believes it rules the world, and as it has the money, it can afford the nukes to continue its dreams. But influencing an election, we can get someone good in power who actually cares about the planet we call home, instead of just more money.
    Kiania, I personally thought you were a really cool person... and still do so dont take this as a personal attack, but I cant disagree more.

    British citizens have zero right in trying to force/persuade/embarass someone into voting how you want. I would be ashamed of myself if I wrote to one of you during your parlimentary elections and told you that you had to vote for so and so.

    Finally if you really think that Kerry gives a damn about Britain, you're really mistaken. Kerry cares about being in power, he cares about money. Hell he said that he made his money by marrying up, and I really dont think anyone can say he wasnt serious.

    I've recieved a letter from a British citizen urging me to vote for Kerry, but I have to step back and ask myself:

    1- Does the Brit know what the heck they're talking about when they write me saying that "Kerry believes in limited governanse (sic) and that's better for us all"?

    2- While I value the opinions of our Canadian and British allies, what right do you have to tell me... a citizen of the US to vote how you want me to vote? Shouldnt you be off trying to vote or hold referendums in your own countries to elect leaders to pressure the US.

    Oh lastly on the nukes, Britian has nuclear weapons as well. Over 100. While the US, France, Russia, China all have a lot more than that, 1 nuke is all you need to be a player. So Im really not sure your argument holds up, especially about the environment... since your neighbor, the French, still test.
    Last edited by Frobozz; October 27th, 2004 at 10:12 PM.

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    Originally posted by Frobozz
    British citizens have zero right in trying to force/persuade/embarass someone into voting how you want. I would be ashamed of myself if I wrote to one of you during your parlimentary elections and told you that you had to vote for so and so.

    Finally if you really think that Kerry gives a damn about Britain, you're really mistaken. Kerry cares about being in power, he cares about money. Hell he said that he made his money by marrying up, and I really dont think anyone can say he wasnt serious.

    I've recieved a letter from a British citizen urging me to vote for Kerry, but I have to step back and ask myself:

    1- Does the Brit know what the heck they're talking about when they write me saying that "Kerry believes in limited governanse (sic) and that's better for us all"?


    2- While I value the opinions of our Canadian and British allies, what right do you have to tell me... a citizen of the US to vote how you want me to vote? Shouldnt you be off trying to vote or hold referendums in your own countries to elect leaders to pressure the US.

    Oh lastly on the nukes, Britian has nuclear weapons as well. Over 100. While the US, France, Russia, China all have a lot more than that, 1 nuke is all you need to be a player. So Im really not sure your argument holds up, especially about the environment... since your neighbor, the French, still test.

    Here, Here Frobozz, i agree.
    Allies or not, only you lot have the right to influence the voting in your election. Unfortunatley every bloody country in the world will be guaranteed to be trying influence every other country as best they can, its the way its is, and it will never change.
    Like Tharun said, Guardian readers count for about 5% of the countrys population, and well, over here we all know that their heads are so far up their own arses they havent a frigging clue whats realy going on in the REAL world, where the rest of us live.
    Yes we have a strong concern, mainly for the future of the world, and that you dont elect some bloody Jelly Fish that fucks it up for eveyone, but you can deal with that if it happens, thats Democracy for you.
    Personaly i dont think Kerry is strong enough to lead, but i think he will be led and do what makes him popular. This as we all know will be a total disastor for the whole wold not just America.........Hmmm.

    See just anouther Brit trying to influence the way you vote!!
    How ironic, Eh.

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    Here's another important point, and a reason why people from other countries shouldn't be trying to directly involve our election:

    In the United States we have some very important concepts that most folks from elsewhere do not understand:

    Separation of Power
    Checks and Balances

    These two concepts are integral to our form of government and they are core founding principles.

    Because of these concepts, our President is extremely limited in what he can do. If more people abroad understood this, they might not find it so necessary to meddle.
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