Idiots in Iraq and their Moronic Photos

[Jarkis]

What's upsetting here is that from Solubynn's above post, it seems obvious that many muslims are not privvy to the huge efforts made by the governments of western countries to avoid discrimination against muslims around the world.

Sadly. I have to agree that people in the Middle East are getting misinformed. But from where I come from the Muslims are glad that governments in the West takes steps to ensure there is no religious discrimination. Our mosques preach for peace here. We tell our faith to follow the light.

My previous posts may be trying to protect my faith but it is just that sometimes its the few bad ones that make the rest seem bad.

[Solmyr]

What is most upsetting about the supposedly vast majority of "moderate Muslims" is that when Muslim terrorists slaughter people or fanatical mullahs preach death and destruction, you don't hear one peep out of the "moderates". Compare that to the shitstorm that rises any time America does something even remotely questionable, or whenever Israel does anything at all.

If you want us to believe there are moderate Muslims out there, they need to make themselves heard.

[Jarkis]

Hmm.

Make ourselves heard. Yeah. But the leaders are afraid to voice it out. Why? Because you have seen what happen to those who speak out against the "jihad" the fanatics give death threats to our community. Even in Singapore. There were plans to blow up a major rail system eventhough the majority of people lived there were Muslims. Muslim Leaders are therefore afraid to voice their concerns because of the reprecussions they may inflict on the community they preach. Dozens of this incidents happen in Phillipines, Malaysia, Indonesia. They think that we are infidels because we "support whatever" the "devils of the west" do. I feel that it is not the fault of the leaders but they do not want any harm to be done to the community. In Singapore it is not so bad as we are very good allies with our Muslim neigbours Malaysia, Indonesia and Brunei and also have ties that are very close to the USA.

Worst off then us are the Saudis, close allies with the USA. You have seen what happened recently? The attacks in Riyadh. Eventhough they were aimed at Internationals they knew that the compund held mostly locals. Why did they not care? Well because they thought of them as infidels.

Here is the article.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...5rI&refer=home

[Solmyr]

So are you saying that the (apparent) moderate majority is held hostage by a minority of fanatics? Somehow this seems to be a common theme in Muslim countries, being afraid to speak out against the fanatics and dictators. I dunno, I just can't get myself to feel any sympathy for that sort of attitude. Western civilization has achieved democracy and liberty because people were not afraid to speak out, and eventually their ideals prevailed. People in Muslim countries need to realize the same. Islam badly needs its own Reformation.

Hopefully the example of Iraq will spur such developments. In this regard, when Iraqis speak out against the US coalition forces, it's in a way a good thing, because it means that they are not afraid to do so. After all, only a year ago if they did the same they'd likely get their entire family murdered. They have realized now that expressing their political opinion won't mean insant death sentence, and that's a positive development.