There are so many excellent examples to prove this. Feel free to share your own. Here is the latest example that prompted the creation of this thread:
Hoops coach punished for 'Crybaby Award'
Good lord. So sports coaches cannot call someone a crybaby anymore? The kid probably WAS a crybaby. Anyone who has played sports has had this kind of person on their team. They piss and moan and whine and make things miserable for everyone who is actually putting forth serious effort.A basketball coach who gave a 13-year-old player a "Crybaby Award" will be banned from coaching, sent to sensitivity training and ordered to make a public apology.
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May 5th, 2004 03:08 PM #1Administrator
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We Are Getting SOFT and WEAK as a Civilization
Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my Uncle Jack off a horse." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."
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May 5th, 2004 03:23 PM #2Bullfrog
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Hell yeah we're getting soft. Some of it is understandable...little children don't need to hear their coaches swear up a storm...but coaches are there to do one thing...coach. If you're a whiney little brat, you're going to get stomped on...at least, that's my experience. Male or female coaches, it doesn't matter, you don't pull your weight...you lose. Eh, might've gotten off topic...
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May 5th, 2004 03:27 PM #3tadpole
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Sensitivity training?!?!?!
The best coaches are the hardasses!
Sometimes there is a point where you have to say, "sit down, and shut up you annoying little brat!!!"
People are getting way to damn soft.
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May 5th, 2004 03:53 PM #4Tree Frog
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There are good reasons why a coach would be hard in that way. It's called discipline and creating a TEAM.
It's a lot like basic training used to be. (And tell me this doesn't back up Ari's statement that we are becoming a weak civilization)
Back in the day, Boot Camp used to be difficult. Not so much the tasks but the lack of sleep, rigorous schedule and the Drill Instructors being VERY hard, loud and demanding. This was their job, they are this way for a REASON. They are building a fighting TEAM (much like sports coaches to a lesser degree). You were trained to defend your nation and protect your team. It also wasn't unheard of to have your ass kicked by a drill instructor for insubordination, or just trying to be and individual and not part of a team.
Now boot camp is Co-ed. Boot camp has the equivalent to "Time Out" cards where if the stress is to great and the little new soldier is being yelled at TOO much, they can just hand the pass the the Drill and that instructor is supposed to chill. Your focus in training is supopsed to be on becoming a soldier. I don't feel that Co-ed basic training facilitates this at all. I think it gives young soldiers too much of an opportunity to focus too many other things and the double standards for women make it too easy for several sexual harassment claims. Just my opinion.
I don't get it?? How is this helping us? Basic Training is SUPPOSED to be difficult and stressful because WAR is difficult and stressful and its important to know how to handle yourself under those conditions. Its's sad when your nation's army now gets PC on the new recruits. I could actually rant a long time on this one.The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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May 5th, 2004 03:58 PM #5Bullfrog
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I heard about this, and I think the part that I find most disheartening is that I'm totally getting used to this pansy-ass state of affairs. I've grown to -expect- this sort of bullshit out of people, which is just sad. Apparently the father of the crybaby talked to news reporters and said the kid was on the verge of tears when he received the award. While I thought it was damn sad, I also couldn't help but laugh (and want to beat the kid and his father with a tire iron).
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May 5th, 2004 04:14 PM #6Administrator
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Holy shit. Holy... Fucking... Shit...Originally posted by Raeghin
Boot camp has the equivalent to "Time Out" cards where if the stress is to great and the little new soldier is being yelled at TOO much, they can just hand the pass the the Drill and that instructor is supposed to chill.
Are we trying to turn into the US Military of the 1970s? The one that was weak and pathetic and just begging to get its ass kicked?
Do these Time Out cards work against the enemy? If so, we've just solved the war on terror.
I have also heard that drill instructors are not allowed to use profanities. That's ridiculous!
How can you be prepared to wage war if you cannot even handle a little rough treatment in boot camp?!?!?!Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my Uncle Jack off a horse." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."
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May 5th, 2004 05:05 PM #7Guest
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This world is being overrun by hippies. How the fuck did they get into power? Tree-hugging paccifists who believe that the world could be a better place if we all just loved one another, right now...
They forget we only got to the top of the food chain because we clawed, scratched, bit and killed to get there. You don't achieve anything productive in the hunter/gatherer sense of the word through sensitivity training. All you get is another person too scared to do what has to be done for risk of being sued by another person who needs a good swift kick in the jimmy.
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May 5th, 2004 05:13 PM #8Fire Bellied Toad
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That is one of the most popular and least accurate rumors regarding basic training. There are no such thing as stress cards. Where did you pick that idea up?Now boot camp is Co-ed. Boot camp has the equivalent to "Time Out" cards where if the stress is to great and the little new soldier is being yelled at TOO much, they can just hand the pass the the Drill and that instructor is supposed to chill.
While I agree with that, Fort Benning and Fort Knox continue to be male-only for the training of all combat arms and combat support solders.Your focus in training is supopsed to be on becoming a soldier. I don't feel that Co-ed basic training facilitates this at all.
It is ridiculous. Ridiculous and untrue.I have also heard that drill instructors are not allowed to use profanities. That's ridiculous!
Addendum: The only profanities I have heard Drill Sergeants refrain from using are 'Damn', 'God damn', and 'Hell' for religious reasons. Last I saw, they're still very liberal with all the rest.Last edited by Darion; May 5th, 2004 at 05:18 PM.
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May 5th, 2004 07:28 PM #9Tree Frog
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Here's the urban legend details on the "stress card" story:
http://www.snopes.com/military/stress.htm
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May 5th, 2004 08:34 PM #10Frogdice Team
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I'm pretty sure that boot camp is still pretty damn difficult - setting the urban legend bits to the side. Anything that can drive my stoic, bastard of a little brother to church to deal with it, has to have some toughness to it
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