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  1. #11
    Bullfrog
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    Perhaps women with fake juggies are just trying to be beautiful for the sake of beauty, or they are vain and trying to keep up with what they believe is the current fashion. What's considered beautiful is always changing, and men don't necessarily decide how "beauty" is defined.

    One day the Supermodel is an icon of beauty, the next it's the Kate Mosses of the world. Do men decide this or something else? I don't think it's all up to your average man. Your average man looking for a poster for his wall has to pick from the selection that the store has, and if the store only has Pamela Anderson, well...I guess he has to settle for that.

    So I would say marketing and media have more to do with the limited popularity of fake boobs than do men who think they are sexy, and who therefore supposedly make women want to get them, enough to have their flesh carved open and foreign, potentially hazardous objects inserted inside of their bodies. Especially because I regularly hear from (American) men that, while they may very well like big boobs, they prefer natural to fake anyday.

    I don't know but one or two women out of all of the hundreds and hundreds of women in the world that I have met who have had boob jobs. Maybe because I'm not out there in California or wherever it is where people (men and women!) just have a lot of plastic surgery and think nothing of it.

    Nevertheless this makes me willing to bet that the vast majority of women around the world do not have boob jobs nor are they wishing they could get them in order to better please men.

    Furthermore I've heard that American women more than other nationalities are the ones hung up on fake, huge boobies (and fake blonde, fake tans, and fake everything else) so I think that maybe it is more of an American cultural thing than a woman thing.

    And another thing: Maybe if you are on Baywatch or in the porn industry you're more likely to have fake boobs, but that's all part of the job.

    In the places where fake boobs exist, this is the modern age where women are encouraged to think and act freely, not the olden days where women were compelled by society to corset themselves or bind their feet. Nowadays body alteration does not say anything about a person except perhaps that they are vain, and not necessarily even that. Maybe they just want to express themselves. Maybe they like how it looks.

    Men dye their hair, wear toupees/get hair plugs, get tattoos and piercings, they shave, try to do things to prevent body odor (usually...) etc. just as women do. The same argument could be made about them, that everything they do or do not do for their bodies is only because they are just doing it to attract mates. I don't believe that's necessarily the case, though I am sure it's possible that a good number of men may do these things just to find a partner. I think it is more self-expression and something they do because they care about themselves or because they want to feel more self-confident.

    Speaking personally, I would still take care of my appearance regardless of the existence of men. It's not about impressing men, it's about what I want for myself.

    Whether you choose to believe it or not, women (at least the women -I- know) alter their bodies for many reasons, the biggest reason I think is to feel better about the way they look and feel, not because men want them to. Makeup for example. If women wear it to please men, why do they do it, when so many men say they hate kissing/tasting makeup especially when it comes off on them? And heels. I wear them at work because of the dress code, and when I wear them off work it's because I like to. Not because I'm hoping to make some slobbery heels man happy, that's for sure.

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    Hehehe...Aaanyway. Now that I'm done with the rant...all this boob talk has a song stuck in my head, Jelly by Three 6 Mafia. The chorus is:

    I like the way she shake dat jelly jelly jelly!
    jelly jelly jelly!
    jelly jelly jelly!
    I like the way she work dat jelly jelly jelly!
    jelly jelly jelly!
    jelly jelly jelly!

    Where my Double-Ds at?
    Where my D cups at?
    Where my C cups at?
    Where my B cups at?

    I love it!
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    Hooray for boobies! Even fake boobies.

  2. #12
    Yes..i admit. I love looking at people's feet And noses as well. Back to the issue! Perhaps it might be appealing to other people, but certainly not me. I dread the thought of putting things in my eye. Safety comes first. We've heard of ear infections after piercin and all. Ears arent that important =p. But the eye! Now that's something you dont wanna play with.
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  3. #13
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    The idea that ‘beauty changes all the time’ is absurd. People get that impression since pop culture icons cycle through the mass media frequently, sometimes in a matter of months. The trouble is, pop culture has little to do with real life. There are universal traits of beauty which transcend time and culture. A supple body, symmetrical features, clear skin, bright eyes, glossy hair, good teeth, and high energy levels are considered attractive everywhere. In a word, health is beautiful. Everything else is perennial at best.

    Yes, I agree that men also do silly things in a misguided attempt to be more appealing. Flaunting the symbols of power, wealth and status is more common amongst men than drastic appearance modifications. It's just as ridiculous, though.

    Men who hate makeup? It depends. Someone who is wearing enough makeup to actually soil my clothes or smear all over my face would probably look like a circus clown. Makeup is supposed to accentuate a woman’s features, not warp them. It is definitely a ‘less is more’ type of thing in my humble opinion. The same goes for perfume, jewelry, and a host of other trinkets used to enhance appearance. Of course, this is a matter of personal taste and wildly off topic.

    On a closing note, I agree that the breast job is definitely an American phenomenon. It is common in Southern California, particularly with the vulgar new money crowd. They are so insecure of their new found status, they have to flaunt their wealth ostentatiously with SUVs, breast jobs, and shoddy designer clothing. As the old saying goes, money can’t buy class….

  4. #14
    Why do people get jewelry or otherwise alter their appearance? Enosekel, you said for the most part women alter their appearance to feel better about themselves, and not to attract mates. However, I doubt anyone would feel bad about their appearance if they had nobody to compare themselves to. We do it because we are concerned about how others perceive us and we know appearance is a very large determinant. If you are looking for positive attention from someone I dare say you are going to be concerned about how they perceive you or if they notice you, and likely enough to act on it.
    Last edited by Mei; April 9th, 2004 at 09:48 PM.

  5. #15
    Most, if not all, of you have heard of the “JewelEye” implant that’s been upsetting conservative doctors lately — it is after all quite literally an implant under the surface of the eye. I decided to come see what it was all about... and to have it done on myself. As of Wednesday May 26, 2004, I am now the first person outside of The Netherlands to have it done.
    Article outlining this procedure

  6. #16
    Bullfrog
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    EEEEEEEEEEEEW, god you just had to post that thing with all those gross pictures!!! And I just haaaad to go read it.

    And of course I couldn't stop myself from clicking on the eyelid-piercing link from the page. Yes. EYELID PIERCING. *shudder*


  7. #17
    Bullfrog
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    I love how the chick writing the article compared the setup for her surgery to the scene from A Clockwork Orange, as if it was cute or something. The eyelid piercing stuff did look even more screwy though. I guess it's pretty expensive and risky to be cool and unique these days :P.

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    I heard of this procedure back when it first came out, though I'd never read a detailed account of the procedure...and I shouldn't have. I squirmed through most of it, and once they started showing the pictures and talking about incisions, I kept telling myself, "Just stop now. You get the idea." I finished it though.

    I'm really really touchy about my eyes. I've had to have stuff done to my eyelids before and that was rough enough. I have a phobia of needles and sharp things poking holes in my body, but I think I'd sooner get a tongue piercing than incisions, liquid injections, and object insertions in my eye.
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