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    Defense Technologies John Kerry Voted Against Creating and Funding

    The B-1 bomber.
    The B-2 bomber.
    The F-15 Eagle tactical fighter
    The F-14D Tomcat fighter
    The AH-64 Apache Helicopter
    The AV-8B Harrier "jump" jet
    The Patriot Missile
    The Aegis air-defense system
    The Trident missile

    Kerry also sought to reduce the funding for procurement of the following:

    The M1 Abrams tank
    The Bradley Fighting Vehicle
    The Tomahawk cruise missile
    The F-16 Falcon fighter/attack jet

    I would love to hear John Kerry defend his votes against these programs. He might even have a good reason for it. Unfortunately, whenever he is asked about these votes he says the questioner is "attacking his patriotism" or "attacking his record in Viet Nam."

    I wish he would just defend his votes. If he has a good reason, lets hear it. I wish he would stop pretending that asking him about votes he made in the US Senate equals attacking his service in Viet Nam.
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    *Sputter, cough, growl* Moron.
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    YOU TELL ME WHICH ONE HAS THE EXPERIENCE NECESSARY TO BE LEADER IN CHIEF!!

    Let’s talk about the latest attacks. Dick Cheney has the audacity to question John Kerry’s credentials to be commander in chief, right? First, I remind everybody that Bush and Cheney have no war record. None. Zero war record. John Kerry on the other hand took three bullets in Vietnam, won three Purple Hearts, the Bronze Star, the Silver Star, and a Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism.

    Then Cheney says Kerry is soft on defense because he voted against the Apache helicopter. The fact is, when he was Secretary of Defense, Dick Cheney killed the Apache helicopter. These guys are complete hypocrites. The record shows that Cheney, as Secretary of Defense, boasted to Congress that he had killed 81 different weapons programs. And then Cheney attacks Kerry for voting against the Apache helicopter. We can’t let them get away with these lies. We have to expose every one of them. And I think the American people will see the truth and appreciate the truth.

    Bush lied, and people died
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    Re: Defense Technologies John Kerry Voted Against Creating and Funding

    Originally posted by kestra
    [B] First, I remind everybody that Bush and Cheney have no war record. None. Zero war record.
    Nor did President Clinton, but that's not saying much since he was a disgrace as a President anyways. So, what's your point? Are you saying that in order to be a good leader and have the ability to make sound decisions..you have to have a war record?

    Originally posted by kestra
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    John Kerry on the other hand took three bullets in Vietnam, won three Purple Hearts, the Bronze Star, the Silver Star, and a Presidential Unit Citation for Extraordinary Heroism.
    Heroism for committing war crimes? He admitted to committing war crimes and then tried to BLAME hire ups that created zones for purposes intended to facilitate military operations. He admitted to taking advantage of policies and established boundaries meant to help our soldiers succeed and USED those as excuses to commit atrocious acts that are prohibited by the Geneva Convention and then he blamed the hire ups for HIS war crimes.

    Then he says later in life that his words were those of an angry, young man. He's no different now than he was then. He votes, he makes bold statements. Then when confronted and proven as a hypocrit, he waffles and then blames the "hire ups"....oh but they lied to him so THAT'S why his record reflects such disgusting behavior in his voting. I hope he loses the election by a landslide just to show how disgusted people are with folks like him.

    A good link that you should check out: http://fluxview.com/v/FNVA-John_Kerry.htm

    Take the first two links on that page to better understand why I feel the way I do about this man. He even admits to commiting war crimes and then tries to implicate our country as being full of people who are doing the same thing!

    Originally posted by Aristotle

    I would love to hear John Kerry defend his votes against these programs. He might even have a good reason for it. Unfortunately, whenever he is asked about these votes he says the questioner is "attacking his patriotism" or "attacking his record in Viet Nam."

    Because he is ashamed of his irresponsible behavior AFTER the fact..after returning home from the war...where he participated in activities that furthered the mistreatment and torture of our prisoners of war.

    It is truly my belief that THIS man, John Kerry, is just another hater of the US. He is disloyal and everyone knows it and the only way he can hide this fact is to claim to have been some sort of hero in a war that he disagreed with because he made mistakes during the war of which he was terribly ashamed.

    He participated in the disrespectful tossing of Vietnam war honor medals that were deserving of the young soldiers fighting the war while he was safe back in the US, yet now he boldly holds his own medals with such pride????

    There are now legitimate sites being established by Vietnam Veterans and their families shunning his so-called "Patriotism" because they didn't much appreciate his behavior while his fellow comrades were being tortured and/or still at war fighting for their lives and for this country.

    He is a disgrace and he continues to hide behind it rather than fess up and apologize for putting our soldiers in MORE harm. I believe he'll do the same for the country if he were ever to become President. He'd be out apologizing to the world for America's atrocities...he being, admittedly, one of the biggest offenders.

    Sorry for the length of this post, and I do apologize for the passion with which I wrote about this Presidential candidate, but I have no respect for him whatsoever.

    I hope I didn't go off topic, but yes..I'd be curious to hear how he would defend his voting record, especially when it comes to the military. I'm also tired of him whining about his questionable "patriotism".

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    Originally posted by kestra
    [B]YOU TELL ME WHICH ONE HAS THE EXPERIENCE NECESSARY TO BE LEADER IN CHIEF!!
    *cough* *sputter*

    Im not sure who has the experience necessary to be leader in chief. But Im pretty sure that President Bush, being the current Commander-in-Chief through TWO wars has enough experience under his belt to do the job.

    I dont think I need to address anything else you said.

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    Oh, and I do disagree with what Pyrosama said.. almost totally. I do not think that Senator Kerry is a "US HATER". I think that he has, or at the least the idealists in his party have, very strong views about how the country should be run and in what direction the President of the United States should take it.

    While I really do not like Senator Kerry and I think that he would make a horrible President, I dont think it's fair to rip into him the way you just did. NOW that doesn't mean you shouldn't rip into him, recently 'Good Morning America' did a really nice job of doing it. They started off by asking him what he had planned for our troops, he mentioned the 'things he's already done, such as voting for bill x,y, or z', then the host moved on to domestic policy and Kerry responded the same, then the host moved on to international policy, same response from Kerry. Well after these responses the Host really went on the offensive and started playing video clips of Kerry speaking out against things like body armor for troops as 'an unnecessary cost'. Now this is an example of a real good burn, Kerry then tried to say he never voted against such a bill, that the clip was taken out of context. The host let him hang himself and then when Kerry tried to assert that he would have never voted against such a bill the host put the voting record up on the screen for everyone to see. Kerry basically hung himself at this point.

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    Pyro, don't apologize for being passionate. That's a good thing.

    While I believe Kerry is no angel, I'd vote for him way before I'd vote for Bush.
    War is never pretty, so I'm told.....and nobody escapes it unscathed.

    Bush has done a lousy job on the war on terror.

    I heard a great quote the other day:"Saddam Hussein was to 911, as Colonel Klink was to the Haulocaust"

    Afghanistan and Iraq are collosal failures that will never fully recover.

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    Originally posted by kestra
    Pyro, don't apologize for being passionate. That's a good thing.

    While I believe Kerry is no angel, I'd vote for him way before I'd vote for Bush.
    War is never pretty, so I'm told.....and nobody escapes it unscathed.

    Bush has done a lousy job on the war on terror.

    I heard a great quote the other day:"Saddam Hussein was to 911, as Colonel Klink was to the Haulocaust"

    Afghanistan and Iraq are collosal failures that will never fully recover.
    You said a lot of... 'stuff'... but you didnt provide a why.

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    this interview can express things much better than I can:

    http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/04/04/int04020.html

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    Regardless of any faults Bush may or may not possess, I'd vote for him over Kerry because I see Kerry as a worse president for the following reason: Kerry gives me the impression he's just a a puppet. Bush, on the other hand, seems like the kind of guy that makes his own decisions about things. In a person that should be at the top, I want the latter. Particular issues are secondary for me.
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