I was under the impression that Florida is marked with stupidity as a whole.
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I was under the impression that Florida is marked with stupidity as a whole.
Comprehending Florida: It's Not Rocket Science, You Know!Quote:
Originally posted by Pae
I was under the impression that Florida is marked with stupidity as a whole.
(Actually, I don't know much about Florida, but it asked for a NASA joke.)
It's not the way she talks, other than being so casual that I find so revolting about it. She uses African American Vernacular - not appropriate for the situation, but there's nothing "wrong" with it in itself.
It's her acting like a dim-witted sorority girl at graduation on the floor of the US congress. I can't understand how she thought it'd be appropriate to wear a FL graduation gown and give what sounds like a very bad, freshman Communication 101 class presentation about how cool her school is. It sounded like she was pimping the football program to high school football players, and then recapping the game for local public access television. How on earth she thought that was appropriate for Congress is beyond my comprehension.
Gotta agree with Jidoe - if I were the president, hell if I even taught there, I'd be embarrassed that my school produced that.
WTF is this shit?
In the middle of the worst economic downturn since the depression, the US Congress has time to recognize such a phenomenally badly worded and frankly IRRELEVANT piece of dross?
That was an embarrassing lack of eloquence and a demonstration of very poor literary skill. To excuse it as the vernacular of ANY group is to, in my mind, insult every single one of them.Quote:
She uses African American Vernacular - not appropriate for the situation, but there's nothing "wrong" with it in itself.
It would seem that someone who has completed tertiary education to a masters level would have something of a better command of the King's English.
(Inb4 knee-jerk "Maelgrim is a racist" posts)
Haven't you heard of "equal opportunities"? It means that you can get the same chance at a degree whether you're man or woman... slave or free... Jew or Greek... speak English or can't speak English... and possibly, have learned the material or have learned nothing.Quote:
Originally posted by Maelgrim
It would seem that someone who has completed tertiary education to a masters level would have something of a better command of the King's English.
I don't think you're being racist. You are off base though. African American English has been extensively researched and documented by linguists. Not every African American speaks it, nor are all the people who speak it African American - but the majority are, thus the name.Quote:
Originally posted by Maelgrim
To excuse it as the vernacular of ANY group is to, in my mind, insult every single one of them. ...
(Inb4 knee-jerk "Maelgrim is a racist" posts)
Wikipedia, as much as I hate it, has a pretty decent summary of the linguistic features and the main theories on its origins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African...acular_English
She reduces coda consonant clusters, is non-rhotic, monophthongizes standard diphthongs, and g-drops.
I just finished teaching a 3 week section on AAVE to my freshman English classes at the University where I teach. I'm not talking out of my ass on this one. I study this kind of thing professionally.
What the hell is African American Vernacular?Quote:
Originally posted by Pelic
I She uses African American Vernacular
There are people who have all types of dialects based on their geographical location in America. A step further, making the blanket statement of "African American Vernacular" is absurd and ignorant. Many many many African American's do not sound like her. Your statement is saying all white people sound like a hillbilly from Kentucky.
There is nothing wrong for commenting on how awful she is, but making the blanket statement that all African Americans talk like this is absurd and offensive.
Kailen do read what gets posted or do you just intentionally troll the forums?Quote:
Originally posted by Kailen
What the hell is African American Vernacular?
There are people who have all types of dialects based on their geographical location in America. A step further, making the blanket statement of "African American Vernacular" is absurd and ignorant. Many many many African American's do not sound like her. Your statement is saying all white people sound like a hillbilly from Kentucky.
There is nothing wrong for commenting on how awful she is, but making the blanket statement that all African Americans talk like this is absurd and offensive.
It can be researched all you like. Still sounds like a cop-out to me. I know plenty of individuals with thick cultural accents (My girlfriend's parents for one, who speak with a very thick Chinese/Malay accent) who in no way mangle the mother tongue like that.Quote:
Originally posted by Pelic
I don't think you're being racist. You are off base though. African American English has been extensively researched and documented by linguists. Not every African American speaks it, nor are all the people who speak it African American - but the majority are, thus the name.
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She reduces coda consonant clusters, is non-rhotic, monophthongizes standard diphthongs, and g-drops.
But most of us can still manage to stumble our way from one end of a speech (That we wrote, btw) to the other without making that big a cock up of it.
What was presented in the video was illiteracy, and a mockery of what should be a hallowed institution. I personally think African Americans deserve better than the implication that piss-poor English skills=their cultural vernacular.
Also I'm more pissed off about the fact that she wasted Congress time on a fucking footy match. If Ruddkips turned up in a Geelong jersey, he'd be told STFU and GTFO by the speaker of the house before he even reached the lectern. It's completely insane that not only was that woman not ejected from the house, but, after doing some research, that the corrupt slattern is continuously re-elected!
Yeah, Pelic, get your facts, research and qualifications outta here. There's OPINIONS to be heard!