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Ok, so the Probowl is all we have left, and it barely counts as an NFL event, so the next thing to look forward to is the draft! Roethlisberger seems to have the edge on Manning currently, but there is a long way to go. Let's just hope that San Diego trades away the first pick so we don't have to endure all the media references to Ryan Leaf!
From what Ive read, it sounds like it will be Manning #1 to SD, and then Fitzgerald, following an announcement after the Clarett hearing, to Oak #2.
I'm interested to see if San Diego will check out Henson. If I were them I'd look at him hard and seriously consider trading away the first pick. Manning might have an edge at #1, but I'm siding more with the folks that are speculating on the underdog. It's more interesting that way!
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Originally posted by Serith
From what Ive read, it sounds like it will be Manning #1 to SD, and then Fitzgerald, following an announcement after the Clarett hearing, to Oak #2.
I heard some rumours that Henson might actually go before Manning. I'd rather having the younger guy who has played more recently. The Steelers were listed as one of the teams interested in Henson. I'd be happy to see that.
The Steelers are in dire need of help on the O-line but any time you can get a potential star QB you should take advantage of it since there are always serviceable lineman in free agency and the draft.
Im definately curious to see what Big Blue does in the draft, they have so many holes to fill. I think it would be cool to draft Taylor, for the defense. Yet clearly this season, we found out that Jesse Palmer might not be the next starting QB, after collins is gone, based on his performance. So we might want to get a QB to get into the system for a year or two
Anyway, i think they have the number 4 pick!
They sure do. I'd like to see them draft a QB and maybe pick up and every down back via the draft or free agency (unless Dayne shows HUGE improvement in the offseason he should go) and use Tiki as a third down back. I'd also like to see them pick up a speed demon WR since the Giants aren't really killing anyone with the deep route.Quote:
Originally posted by Xenoroyal
Im definately curious to see what Big Blue does in the draft, they have so many holes to fill.
Later in the draft, they should look at someone on the defensive side who can help with the pass rush. I'm not sure who fits the bill, but I think anyone with a degree of talent would be useful.
Then there's special teams, but that's a whole other can of worms.
So lets see... You need a QB, a running back, a WR, a defense, and special teams.Quote:
Originally posted by Wyden
... I'd like to see them draft a QB...
... pick up and every down back
... I'd also like to see them pick up a speed demon WR
... someone on the defensive side who can help with the pass rush.
... Then there's special teams
Holy crap dude. You need a whole new team. That has to suck!
;comforts Wyden and all Giants fans
Clarett is in for now...I really hope that the NFL is able to win on appeal though. I don't want to see things get to the point that kids are drafted after one year of college. I don't have any faith in the integrity of the front offices around the league to not draft talented kids that are too young for the pros. Of course if Clarett is drafted early and is a total flop it might stress how important it is for players to mature before moving into the NFL.
I dont know about this Wyden! I can see the Giants drafting a QB, but picking up another running back? What about Dorsey Levens too? We already have three, unless Levens got signed to a 1 year contract, which im not sure of. Jim Fassel and Dayne just couldnt find a common ground, so perhaps Coughlin will give him another shot this time around.Quote:
I'd like to see them draft a QB and maybe pick up and every down back via the draft or free agency (unless Dayne shows HUGE improvement in the offseason he should go) and use Tiki as a third down back. I'd also like to see them pick up a speed demon WR since the Giants aren't really killing anyone with the deep route.
I think the Giants CAN kill people with a deep route. Shockey, Hilliard, and Toomer are decent enough weapons. The problem was that Collins was forced to do more short passing this season since the O-line sucked balls and couldnt protect him long enough. And we are all aware on how collins cant scramble for shit, hes a pure pocket passer.
We have to draft some O-linemen, maybe not the in the first round, but they should be considered in the later rounds, a lot will depend on the free agent market and the Giants cap room.
I think the problem Fassel had with Dayne was his work ethic. I could be wrong about that, but I think I recall reading something that though sugar-coated gave me the vibe that Dayne was lazy. Dorsey is 34 years old and only rushed for 197 yards on 68 carries (2.9 yards per carry). Also, he's only had two 1000-plus rushing yard seasons in his 10 years in the NFL and is injury-prone. I just don't see him as an every down.
Shockey and Hilliard are good receivers, no doubt. But neither have blazing speed. They're possession receivers. I'd just like to see a deep threat :)
Here's a well put together mock draft:
Mock Draft 2004
This is a GREAT offseason already!!!
Brunell goes to Washington! Clarett after winning his case doesnt even bother running the combine!
Im personally hoping that Fitzgerald goes to SD, and Manning goes to the raiders, because I hate the Raiders, and I hate the Manning Family, so it will be an easy emotional transition for me. Clarett should go to the raiders too.
I dunno, I love watching all these pre draft shifts though.
I can't imagine what Clarett was thinking with the whole combine...he didn't help his stock mutch. He's "saving" himself for an individual workout, which will no doubt have its validity questioned for some reason or another.
I'm interested to see how well Brunell works out in Washington. He was a pretty good QB in his prime, and is probably above average now if he's in the right system.
I hate Clarett.
I hate kids in pro sports.
I think all pro sports should make a college degree mandatory as a requirement for employment. Lots of other jobs have such a requirement, and requiring a college degree does not violate any age discrimination laws.
Broncos, Redskins discuss Portis-for-Bailey swap :eek
Looks like Portis might drop a notch or two in fantasy leagues...
I will commit ritual suicide if that deal ever goes through
not like Denver wouldn't find another 1000+ yard rusher to fill his gap instantly :p
You have a second year, low dollar, high prospect running back, conisdered to be in the top 3 in the league, he is injury free at the waist down, and he is on a high output running team.
Okay, someone, anyone... tell me why either the Broncos OR Clinton portis would ever consider this trade.
The denver corners are good, Lenny Walls is 6'5" and improving with every game, and the safties and LB's are the best Denver has ever had. The running game is as strong as it ever has been, except for maybe two years with phenomenal performances from the man, Terell Davis.... and you want to trade for Chump Bailey, and overpriced corner? HE IS A GREAT CORNER!!!! but Corners dont win you more than one game a year. And would POrtis want to go to a hideous team, in coaching shambles, where THE ____FRANCHISE___ Player is a CB? I dont think so.
This trade rumor is a farce, or political positioning. Dont believe a word of it.
Portis is considering it because he made $300, 000 last year while running for nearly 1600 yards in 13 games. i think i'd be pissed too. though nothing would make me want to go to Washington in the end
Yeah the problem here is that Portis wants out.
BWAHAHAHAHA! Sucks to be Clarret!
I've seen some more interesting mock drafts lately that have Manning going as low as #4. I think it's just a plot by the media to hype things up to create attention for the draft, which I think is a good thing...It's almost here! WOO!